kateamerate ([info]kateamerate) wrote,
I am back at Trinity! aw bittersweet. it is strange to think that I am back in this life again. did I walk into an alternate universe because thing just don't look the same as when you are on campus. maybe that is a good thing. maybe it is not. I don't want Trinity to be my life but when I am here it is so easy.



my dilema:

we had communion today. I didn't take any. I think that I have a problem with taking communion outside of a church setting, or a context where there is a somewhat set group of certain people where accountablity is in place. the Bible says to "do this in rememberance of me" but Jesus was talking to a group of men who had spent the last three years living with one another. there was certainly accountablity with those men. That is why communion is now most often found in the church. and Trinity is NOT A CHURCH. it is not. it trys to be sometimes but I think that is wrong.
maybe I am overthinking this whole thing. Jesus could have been talking about whenever you eat a meal, as in daily, remember me.



second dilema:

chris said something awhile ago about reading a book about the demasculinizing of men in the church. the more I think about it the more I can see what he is talking about. where is that balance between a man who is down-right gentleman and a man who is manly. and the word is 'gentleman' but that word has lost so much. it orginally mean simply a man who owned property. but it ended up representing a class of men who were cultured and well-mannered. but then that all went to h-e-double hockey sticks. no one wants to be a 'nice guy' I mean how femmy can we let the men in our society get? and I don't think more women is what we need...certainly not what we need.
so I guess in the end I am glad I am not a guy. good luck to all the guys out there. God be with you.

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[info]shred_betty

August 29 2005, 17:03:15 UTC 6 years ago

i need to read that book...

[info]kateamerate

September 1 2005, 01:49:24 UTC 6 years ago

I'll see if I can get a copy.

[info]preexgirlfriend

August 30 2005, 04:24:43 UTC 6 years ago

I definitely lean more toward the every time you have a meal, as in daily, remember me.

Mydilemma: if your idea of church includes a group of people who find accountability while living together for an extended period of time, then how is Trinity not a church? In terms of community, accountability, outreach, teaching, worship, and more, I feel that Trinity is what the body of Christ (the body of believers...the church) should be way more than any actual Church that I have been to. I at least think that all the things that I would want in a Church, I can find at Trinity.

[info]octaviusiii

August 30 2005, 08:19:59 UTC 6 years ago

Agreed. I connect better with people of my generation and the one coming up, not so much with my parents', yet those are the people in my church. School (TWU and CBC) and camp have been the places where I have found accountability and community.

However, my favorite communion at Trinity was one from my first year, where we had grape soda and chips as the elements. That we did with our group of friends and it felt very ad hoc and very genuine.

[info]preexgirlfriend

August 30 2005, 21:59:16 UTC 6 years ago

One of my favorites was last year when Sarah, Amanda and I split a cupcake and orange juice in the car on the way to Street-E.

I know what you mean about the community and accountability being easier to find with our generation rather than parent-aged folks, but I also think that it is important to have connections with older people in the church/community because they tend to be the ones with more wisdom simply because they've lived longer and experienced more life. I like older people not so much for the bearing of my soul, but more for me to just listen and learn from them.

[info]octaviusiii

August 31 2005, 02:54:28 UTC 6 years ago

I definitely agree with the value of connecting with those older - I know my parents were far more helpful than I had thought they would be when I was dealing with my drama, and they gave very different advice that what my friends gave. I miss that part of church, certainly.

[info]kateamerate

September 1 2005, 01:48:17 UTC 6 years ago

I think the lack of older people at Trinity is a key element of church that is missing as well as the fact that at its core, Trinity does not claim to be a church...in fact specifies "as an arm of the church" so therefore in the decsion making process church considerations are not found.


But I know what you mean...true Christian community probably look more like Trinity than Peace Portal. If only.

[info]jbabbitt

August 30 2005, 07:27:36 UTC 6 years ago

My dilemas are not as thought provoking as yours; I left my sunroof open slightly last night.

[info]kateamerate

September 1 2005, 01:49:06 UTC 6 years ago

ouch. but a true problem.
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